Shonda Rhimes: I Know When 'Scandal' Will End

Listen up Scandal fans -- creator Shonda Rhimes knows just how and when the hit show's story will be coming to an end.

"I feel like there is a finite amount of Scandal to be told," Rhimes surprisingly admitted in a recent interview with NPR. "So I know what the end of Scandal will be, and I feel really good about that. And I can see where the end point is. And I don't think I'm going to change that. ... I know how long I think it will be. But we'll see."

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She contrasted this decision with her other hit ABC show Grey's Anatomy, which is currently in its 10th season.

"I knew the end of Grey's Anatomy, and then we kept going, so that I finally just had to write that and move past it," Rhimes explained. "Who knows, at this point, how long that show's going to go? It's going to go as long as I feel interested in what happens to those characters."

As for the beloved star of Scandal, Kerry Washington -- whose popularity just keeps on rising -- Rhimes said that the spot-on casting choice was in fact driven by some very specific ideas about the character.

And yes, this includes her race.

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"There were certain things about that job ... there were ways in which she [might] be treated that I thought were very specific to the black experience," Rhimes said. "We did an episode where she walks into the room, and the client immediately assumes that Abby — the tall, white redhead she works with — is Olivia Pope."

"That's a thing that's happened to me," Rhimes revealed.